Downer Rattled By 17 Year Old's Questions On Climate Change
Aggressive Politician Verbally Attacks Teenager
You can read a blog here to learn more about the Australia-Korea Energy Forum, which brought together Australian and Korean students to talk climate strategy, and saw them visiting Kakadu, and the Ranger Uranium mine, amongst their many adventures. They then winged it back to Canberra for the Talkback Classroom debate, which resulted in Alexander Downer making a complete fool of himself, and allegedly directing unsavoury comments towards the Korean students and the insistent questioner Alex Meekin.
Climate classroom debater, and student, Tina Pahlman explains what happened during the 'Alexander Downer Incident' :
...we didn't ask everything we wanted to and Mr Downer tended to speak far too much on things other then our direct questions----we never mastered the cut in technique...but all in all I think the audience was engaged we had Downer on the edge of his seat and we raised some important issues...
What a sad, pathetic man Alexander Downer is.
From news.com.au :
ACT student Alex Meekin got a taste for the thrust and parry of political life when he took the foreign minister to task over climate change during a session of Talkback Classroom at the National Museum of Australia today.
The Narrabundah College student was part of a panel grilling Mr Downer on energy and raised the minister's ire on a number of issues.
Mr Downer at first batted the tricky questions away, diplomatically sidestepping whether he agreed with climate change sceptics in the Government like Finance Minister Nick Minchin.
Mr Downer's tolerance started to slip when the 17-year-old asked about the moral imperative involved in addressing climate change, suggesting there had been similar economic arguments against ending slavery 200 years ago.
"We're not trying to have some sort of polemic debate," the minister said.
...when Alex questioned whether Australia could have much impact given its refusal to ratify Kyoto, Mr Downer hit back: "It sounds like your questions come from a familiar source".
"A source I'm very familiar with, I'd say they've written them well for you," the minister said, suggesting he thought the questions were supplied by Labor.
Talkback classroom producer Stephen Cutting said the students had been briefed by a variety of sources, including Mr Downer's office, Labor, the federal parliamentary library, business and industry.
"I think comments like that underline the effectiveness of how these kids learn the issues, they've met with many experts, they've been briefed by everybody including Mr Downer's own office," he said.
Downer refused to answer genuine questions from concerned teenagers. Teenagers concerned about how climate change will impact on their lives and the lives of their future children. They wanted to know if Downer's government are really committed to trying to control the growth of global warming. They wanted to know if Downer, as foreign minister, accepted the reality of climate change.
The students wanted straight answers, but Downer refused to answer. He didn't "bat" the questions away. He refused to answer them.
Instead, Downer tried to smear a 17 year old as a Labor stooge, and accused him of not writing his own questions.
Downer owes Alex Meekin, and the other students, an apology. And he still owes them truthful answers to their very valid questions.
So just how paranoid is Alexander Downer these days? Utterly.
Few Australians know how widely disrespected Alexander Downer is on the world diplomatic stage. Particularly in Asia. Diplomats can often be seen rolling their eyes or laughing to themselves when Downer enters a room. Others visibly tense up in his presence, or grit their teeth in grim smiles.
Downer is widely viewed as rude, impertinent and absolutely arrogant. He bullies Pacific nation leaders, and dismisses the concerns of Central and South East Asian leaders over Australia's involvement in the BushCo. missile defence shield, all the while demanding they do more to "fight terror".
Prime minister John Howard is not the only Liberal federal politician now shifting into meltdown mode after seven months of appalling polls. Downer has become a snow man in the sunlight.
Downer's woeful performance at the students' debate is another in a long string of embarrassing public spectacles, including his recent appearance on Lateline, where he was clearly drunk, slurring, and repeating himself.
Really, what sort of federal politician can't take a few hard questions from a 17 year old student without starting to whine, sulk and then go on the attack?
The sort of politician that is increasingly sad and pathetic and knows he will soon lose his job.
The sort of politician that is Alexander Downer.
There will be many a loud cheer sounding in embassies and parliaments across South East Asia when they learn, after the election, that they no longer have to tolerate Downer in order to keep up good relations with Australia.
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7 comments:
The report on this article is completely out of touch with reality. I was there, and from what I observed, Alex (yr 12 student), was constantly interrupting Downer while he was answering questions posed from one of the Korean guest students. Alex compared the public feeling of global warming, to that of slavery 200 years ago; even going to the lengths of saying that we were enslaving our future generations to the effects climate change. He then went on compare the spending of money on climate change, to that of spending for the upcoming election, two completely different topics, confusing the already confused topic with the topic of the election. Downer quickly pointed out the Labor spends A LOT more on the election than the Liberal party does. Downer went to the forum for an interview on climate change, and NOT politics. Not at one point did Downer ‘lose his cool’. Instead he acted like a respectable politician. All he did was ask Alex to stop interrupting while he was answering the other questions.
Downer’s comments about how he is familiar with ‘Alex’s sources’ (ie. The Labor Party) were inappropriate, however Alex’s complete disrespect for other people’s opinions were out of line, and as Downer pointed out; we should always be able to hear both sides of a debate in a democracy such as Australia, without the callous criticism that the many people of the climate change debate receive.
Since you were there a_r_ you must have caught the racist comments Mr. Downer made toward the Korean students did you? You certainly haven't mentioned them here, but they were certainly made.
Alex's query relating to the cost of elections was a demonstration that the government is more concerned with pumping money into "getting back in" than it is with saving our natural resources and so was a valid one.
I agree with Alex 100% and think Mr. Downer should have had the guts to answer the questions.
Respectable politician? What is that anyway?
Without having been there, it seems obvious from reading a_r_'s apologia, what took place.
Dolly was waffling as usual and Alex felt insulted.
Two completely different topics "money spent on climate change ...to upcoming election"?!?
Puhleez.
How could labor spend more than the ROdent on the election, it's already over $200M by conservative (sic!) estimates and gonna go a lot higher, esp if they are more careful in the actors they hire.
Dolly "went ..for climate change ..not politics." And you don't think they are one & the same with this pack of pusillanimous ploitical poltroons?
Please excuse the triple tautology but I'm a bit ..exercised by such spin. (By their lack of typos. shal ye know them; what price that a_r_ is one of Dolly's staff, or worse?
I was also at the forum and while there has been an obvious (and arguably well deserved) media beat-up about Downer's performance a__r__ makes an exaggerated point.
While Downer was obviously doing much worse in the interview and couldn't handle the pressure of the legitimate and tough questions, Alex did act at 1 point in a way which could have been construed as rude and disruptive. I personally saw it as being simple clarification to keep Downer on topic rather than drifting into airy fairy answers. When we also consider the comparative rudeness of Alex and Alex I believe that Downer was the ruder. Not only was he rude and arrogant towards the Korean students (or as he would say 'You Koreans') he felt obliged to accuse the students of not being capable of writing their own well reasoned and sensible questions. Further to this, Downer was highly hypocritical accusing Alex of being partisan before going into a rant about the Labor party.
Overall, Alex Meekin made sure that the tough questions were asked and that Downer did not get off lightly. Obviously Downer couldn't handle it.
Oooh, poor wittle downy Downer. Can't handle the heat from a 17 year old. I've seen the video, and yes Alex Meekin may have interrupted Downer a few times, but only because he was waffling and refusing to answer the question. Um, doesn't Downer both dish out Meekin like behaviour just about every day he's in Parliament. YES!
Alexander Downer did not give straight answers to the questions. He wanted ten minutes to waffle on. Why should these teenagers have to put up with his crap?
They shouldn't, and Alex Meekin made sure they didn't.
I notice a_r_points out that Downer's shot about Meekin being fed questions by the Labor Party was below the belt. Yeah, no shit Sherlock.
I know one of the Korean kids Downer defamed, and none of them were happy about it. Where's Downer's apology to all the teenagers involved, who cared enough to be involved in such an important issue? Downer will even fatter and older when climate change really kicks in. These teenagers will be raising their families. Downer thanks to his enormous government pension and super benefits will be able to flee climate chaos. The rest of us will have to take it.
Downer will do nothing substantial about climate change in his time left in office and everyone knows it. He's there to delay the inevitable for as long as possible.
Alex Meekin was more of a man, and more of an adult, and more of a debater than Downer was.
What a fucking embarrassment he is.
Downer can never answer a question that he hasn't prepared for. Watch ANY interview with him, and you'll see he's incapable of answering a question that comes out of left field. Even a question such as "would you like a drink of water?" throws him.
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