"....when mums and dads and ordinary Australians have seen the treasurer destroy their future and the future retirement."Fear :
"Everyone knows this is true. And this is bad for our workforce. It's bad for the mums and dads that work in the mines."
"But don't destroy the economy and don't destroy the industries that are employing thousands of Australians - ordinary mums and dads around Australia."
"....ordinary Australians have seen the treasurer destroy their future and the future retirement."
"...that's what the Labor party and Mr Rudd's about - destroying the wealth of Australians."
"But don't destroy the economy and don't destroy the industries that are employing thousands of Australians..."
"(Treasurer Wayne Swan is) suggesting 'Let's take our best industry and destroy it and bring it down to the level of the rest of our economy'."
"...give them the ability to invest in projects that will provide real jobs and create real wealth, not destroy wealth. "
"And that's why we don't like to see it being destroyed by these guys."
"...he's the first person that I'd sack for bringing a tax like this, trying to destroy our resources industry."
"If it ain't broken, leave it alone. Don't try to tinker with it. Don't try to destroy it."
"....let's make a firm stand against the ALP and send them into the Opposition where they belong. And that's what Tony Abbott's going to do in the next election..."
"...this tax is thrown out once and for all as it should be and the Treasurer is thrown out of office as he will be in the next election."
"...the Treasurer should get the boot as well and as the Prime Minister will get the boot at the next election..."
"...that's why Tony Abbott's the last sentry at the gate and he'll throw the Government out at the next election."
"....when mums and dads and ordinary Australians have seen the treasurer destroy their future and the future retirement.And, for the smirking amusement of his mega-rich pals and his allies in the conservative media elite, he remembers to label his enemies as Communists and Socialists :
And this is what's really wrong - it goes at the whole viability of our nation and that's why it's got to be stopped and that's why Tony Abbott's the last sentry at the gate and he'll throw the Government out at the next election."
"Just because you happen to be a socialist or a communist like we know Mr Swan is, as he wants equal distribution....But comrade Rudd and his team are going to bring them back to Australia."Communist China is, of course, one of Clive Palmer's biggest investors.
The last weeks of the winter session have been more damaging to the Rudd Labor Government than the Coalition, no matter how you slice it.The first polls after the solid week of Utegate headlines, hysteria and claims of snarky conspiracy, show the opposite of what Akerman effervescently claims, and the damage inside the Liberal true believer ranks seems intense :
Malcolm Turnbull has paid for his botched attack on Prime Minister Kevin Rudd, with more than half of voters believing he was deceitful about a now-notorious fake email. Even among committed Coalition voters, nearly a third believe he has been deceitful and another 10 per cent say he has been dishonest.If it turns out that Turnbull was speaking, mostly, honestly throughout his dozens of interviews last week, something else will be needed to explain why so many Australians looked at Turnbull being interviewed on TV and thought, 'Oh, this guy is so full of shit.'
A Galaxy poll taken at the weekend has revealed the Opposition Leader's integrity has taken a hammering, revealing a rump of only 7 per cent of voters who think he was "open and honest" during the affair.
"Clearly, he's not going to provide his computer records to the federal police," Mr Tanner told the Nine Network.
"Given the nature of the potential crimes we're dealing with here, that is appalling. He should be making all assistance available to the federal police in order that they can determine whether any serious crimes have been committed and pursue them accordingly if they have been."
....did anyone really believe someone within Treasury would be sending faked emails?Commenters responded to his call for exploration of a larger conspiracy involving Rudd & Swan and reasonably high-tech fakery and so was crafted a conspiracy theory swollen with potentially thrilling drama, tech-treachery and possible falls from power that makes you want to shout "I Want To See This Movie! (or at least read the book)', even if the theory doesn't turn out, in the end, to be actual reality. Some of these comments from Akerman's blog have been slightly
It's a very interesting theory. And no-one showed up to try and dispel it, for many hours on Sunday.Angry God replied to lethal
Sun 28 Jun 09 (12:06pm)As far as I understand computers and managed networks such as government systems, they facts are that the original email would contain data known as the MAC addreess. This is a unique number (that can be spoofed if you know what you are doing). The managed network locks these MAC addresses to the network switch.
A resonable investigator would have been able to identify the originating computer in a few seconds if they were competant. We assume that they are competant and as such we know that the AFP knows which computer initiated the modified (read fake) email.
In a managed network the spoofing of a MAC address within an email will be highlighted as a security breach. So either no spoofing of the MAC address occured or the email was sent from an outside of government network computer.
The AFP will know this info. It will be interesting where the fake comes from as it will be identified by this method.
Ann replied to lethal
Sun 28 Jun 09 (12:24pm)The cursory search of PMO and Treasury computers by Rudd lackeys found no evidence of email so Rudd shrieks “It’s a fake”. Yet AFP take five minutes to find it was generated on a Treasury computer, sent to Grech home computer then deleted from Treasury computer.
samantha replied to lethal
Sun 28 Jun 09 (02:41pm)For me, there are two really big questions that need to be answered. WHO in Treasury devised the email, and for what purpose?
Sammi replied to lethal
Sun 28 Jun 09 (03:03pm)The Treasury generated email was created to catch their leak and it was made as juicy as possible to make sure it would be passed on to the Opposition and used, hence Rudd knew about it before it re-emerged. It also served the double purpose of covering up the copious email trail created by Swan and Co while attempting to secure a loan for Rudd’s mate.
...the hard evidence still shows that Swan did more in his attempt to assist Rudd’s car-dealer mate, John Grant, than he did for any other car dealer in the nation.We'll see. But it would be no great surprise if Rudd and Swan produce something that gets them off the hook. Rudd promised to "mess with their heads" when he became Labor Party leader, and it doesn't look like he has given that strategy even a week off since.That is indisputable.
Treasury officials, operating on clear instructions from Swan’s office, went to extraordinary lengths on Grant’s behalf.
Sun 28 Jun 09 (06:26am)
It is very interesting that the AFP were able to tell everyone the email was a fake almost immediately but have still not enlightened us as to the origins of the email. Was this all a Labor setup?